Hello everyone, this will be my first of hopefully many large topics of feedback to our wonderful developers who I have the most trust in building a very fun an enjoyable Napoleonic era game. Also keep in mind i will be updating this topic frequently with anything that has to do with 'mechanics'
To begin with here I will try to go over some topics and then try to get to all the nitty gritty stuff underneath each one so to begin with...Line & Skirmish mode
So as you all know (my NW fans) in NW you would have your fire and melee mode. now I am here to say I want Holdfast to be a game made for only clans and very good clan mechanics, But also a very good game for people that do not have too much time on there hands and just want to have a good 'ol fun game once every so often. Meaning I want it to have great clan mechanics but people who do not want to be in anyway competitive in regiments can just have just have all the mechanics and do not have to use them in any means necessary. see NW had really good mechanics for the casual player, and right before there development ended put in just enough mechanics to make large and competitive regiments in the game possible and fun to play. Ex Banners, some classes Ranker, Officer (they could of added Cpl, Sjt for line big miss there), some general (could of expanded on the general), and some other things i may be missing. Now to cut to the chase. Im not sure how the melee and shooting are going to work (if we are going to have like a mode for that) but the idea of Line and skirmish mode would be rather simple. Line mode would have some more fancy animations that would be rather used for Regimental game play (Clans) like when the commanding officer through teamspeak would say 'Make ready!' the player would lets say right click the musket and the musket would be ready to fire the animation would make the gun go 90 degrees in front of the soilder so he is holding his gun something like this [Keep in mind this is LINE mode]
Forget the 'half cock and shoulder' part though thats too much just the first firing orders. Oh, also Holdfast we need a walking and running mode just like NW, thats a must here
Alright now for the 'Skirmish mode' of things. I Should honestly refer to this as a 'casual' mode. because its for the players that just want to hop on to a populated server. so in casual mode the only real thing here is animation difference, this mode would not obstruct your screen as much and would have a very small perhaps speed boost when it come to getting your gun ready to fire. it would look like something like this. [This is SKIRMISH mode]
Also here forget the speed or anything other then the animation.Character Stances & Animations
As I have heard it is difficult to get proper animation's in this engine or something like this, that it is difficult making them at least at takes much time, so regard this as somethings to do in the future. Here I will also incorporate the Line and Skirmish mode as well. So here I will be showing default animation stance for soldiers in Skirmish mode :Skirmish mode
This here would be an example of a solider standing still animation (could be used for walking to)(Skirmish mode)
This would be an example of a Solider Cocking his gun (Skirmish mode).
this one here im quite sure is the default one at the moment, it would be nice to have it as the Running animation, as well as the current standing animation (Skirmish mode).Line Mode
Keep In mind everything in line mode will have more advanced stuff, things normal player would not HAVE to use.
this is a nice standing animation that would be most likely used for ceremonial use (Line Mode).
For this one is the same as cocking the gun but would look more professional (Basically cocking the gun in an upward position as shown, Also could be used as present arms order (no cocking))(Line Mode).
This one here would be more of the Default for the Line Mode and this animation would be given for standing still as well as walking (Line Mode).
This here is a nice ceremonial animation but could also be used for walking and standing still in combat (Line Mode). In Game Sounds
Alright time for another topic. So i went poking my head around the internet to look for some cool things the game could use with sounds. From what i heard in the trailer it sounded relatively tinny, quiet, to simplistic, so I went around and found some really nice strong, rich sounds this great game should definitely be build of. Also Please try to listen to the whole clip as there is more to it then the first 5 seconds (no spoilers this time).
Here are some really fantastic cannon, howitzer, potentially mortar sounds. Really nice descriptive video here by the way. Sorry also definitely watch this whole video.
Some nice ambient - Relatively far.
Nearby Battle - Intense
Really intense battle a little to much though.
Nice musket fire effect - could use a little more richness to it though.
Nice voice acting - Napoleon total war, if you are planning to use it.Core game Mechanics
Alrighty, we are now close to the end of this unfinished topic xD, anyway this part of the conversation should of probably been the first part but oh well, its here.
So to start of here i want to summarize everything i have been speaking about and how they would actually would be implemented into the game. So in terms of actual core game mechanics I really want this game to be clan friendly, as well as being great for casual players. the casual players would have all the mechanics to use at a click of a button on their keyboard. So how would this mode work? you may ask. Well the same way shooting and melee mode worked for NW. you could have an option for the Skirm and Line mode, so if line mode is on THEN you only have all the more complex stuff given to you with other key presses on your keyboard. So basically all the extra animations i showed you would press a different key for
, and Skirm mode would just disable the presses unless the Devs would perhaps like this implemented in some different way.
When it comes to crouching things should be said straight. you should be able to reload and fire your gun when you are crouching, it SHOULD take longer and there needs to be a separate animation for it. Sorry, I don't want my gun to be going halfway into the dirt. Also when it comes to the musket you should spawn without the bayonet you should have to put that on after; more realistic that way. Make a different animation for reloading the musket when the bayonet is on and off as well, add Immersion you guys.
Also please make an Implementation for a key for when regiments would come together so when they are at walk they can synchronize the footsteps. Something like this would make my heart have an increase of blood pressure for 1 year (pretend its a good thing).
As another, I decided to move this from the sounds section when it comes to sounds. Distance's guys, elaborate on that. In the first artillery clip I showed there, there is a really nice amount of different distances when it comes to cannons in this case. It would sound just amazing in a huge battle field when there is a distant battle going on.
For classes here we all want, Ranker, Private, Cpl, Sjt, SjtMaj, Ens, Lt, Cpt, Maj for each regiment so all uniforms would incorporate this. (hopefully)Musician Incorporation
So for our final incorporation into this game is a really nice version of musicians. NW got it kinda right, you could play together in a group, but essentially what you were hearing is the exact same thing overlapping its self. in my personal opinion NW did not do a good job with the musicians, just bad job overall. Here I will show you a video of a bunch of young students playing much better than tale worlds could of imagined
- Skip to 8:50 for some good music / Skip to 12:10 for some good musket drills if your interested.
To continue on this, a good extra addition would be different octave of music or other parts entirely of the music to make it sound so good like the video showed. Also when an officer is doing firing orders for example, it would be nice for the musician to have like an option to connect with that officer in some way so when the officer make an order of some sort the drummer could follow up with a trill, as they did in the day, but in more of an automatic sense. unless the drummer has short keys so different area's of music and drill orders.
Alright i did not speak about Melee today because that deserves a thread of its own respectively and I want to thank everyone for reading this. I will be most likely updating this thread so stay posted, thank you again and please post feedback.
29th Sjt James Brock.