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 Should Spain be added as a playable faction in the game?

Yes, the faction is unique and I wish to see it before any other, after France and Britain.
93 (59.6%)
Yes, the faction should be added in, but only after Prussia, Austria and Russia are added in.
49 (31.4%)
No, there are other more interesting factions during the time period.
14 (9%)

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Offline Don_Francisco

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New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« on: July 24, 2017, 03:41:26 pm »
Kingdom of Spain - Reino de España

Hello everyone. The next faction that should be added in Holdfast: Nations at war is the Kingdom of Spain because it took a very important role in the Napoleonic wars since the beginning and it was (and it still being) one of the anciest and greatest nations of Europe as well as the most forgotten one. 

Firstly the Kingdom of Spain aligned with the 1st Coalition against the French Republic, attacking the Roussillon. Spain also participated in the 2nd and 3rd Coalition but this time allied with France, taking an important participation in the 3rd Coalition when the franco-spanish fleet was defeated by the United Kingdom in the Battle of Trafalgar (one of the most named battles of the history) and sending a contingent of 14,000 men (North Division, under command of the Marqués de la Romana) to Denmark.

Also, the Spanish armada has been the biggest one in history for a long time and it was one of the biggest ones in the age that take place the game.

Already in 1808 and having their kings kidnapped in Valençay, Spain was under gobern of the Supreme Regency and organized in Juntas when declared war on the French Empire and joined the 5th Coalition in the one known by the English as the Peninsular War and for the Spanish as the Guerra del Francés (War on the French) where the Spanish defeated for the first time in history the Grande Armée, what made the Emperor go to the Spanish front, adding this with the failed attempt to conquer Russia is what started the decline of the First French Empire and made Napoleon to be banished.

For the M&B's DLC Napoleonic wars only there were a few mods that replaced one faction for the Kingdom of Spain, as I did one for my regiment.

Some Spanish Troops:

2.º Regimiento de infantería de línea de la Reina (line infantry)
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29.º Regimiento de infantería de línea de Murcia (line infantry)
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2.º Regimiento de infantería de Marina (Marines)
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Reales Guardias Valonas (Guards/Grenadiers)
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Real Cuerpo de ingenieros (engineer)
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4.º Regimiento de Artillería de la Coruña (Artillery)
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1.er Regimiento de infantería ligera de Cataluña (light infantry)
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Dragones de Numancia (Cavalry)
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Guardia de Corps (Calvary)
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Francisco Javier Castaños Aragorri Urioste y Olavide, I duque de Bailén (General)
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Naval ilustrations
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Some ilustrations
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Explanation about the Napoleonic Wars (1792-1815):
http://www.aulamilitar.com/historiamilitarindependiencia1808-1814.htm

History of the Spanish military scale (XVIII century and early XIX):
http://www.historiadeespananivelmedio.com/18-1-5-el-ejercito-espanol-del-siglo-xviii/

Organization of the Spanish armies and their respective regiments at the beginning of the peninsular war. (1808-1814):
http://www.altorres.synology.me/guerras/1808_independencia/unidades/ejercito_espanol/1808_ejercito.htm (el más recomendado)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?460616-Spanish-regimental-names-1805-14 (In English, recommended)
http://balagan.info/spanish-order-of-battle-during-the-peninsular-war (In English, recommended)
http://www.reenactor.ru/ARH/PDF/Nafziger.pdf (In English, recommended)
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_espa%C3%B1ol_(Guerra_de_la_independencia)
https://revistadehistoria.es/el-ejercito-espanol-en-1808/
http://infcartagena.webcindario.com/1800a1850.htm
http://www.alkaidediciones.com/foro/index.php?topic=1407.0 (Real Cuerpo de Artillería)
https://sites.google.com/site/rutashistoricas180814/los-ejercitos/los-ejercitos-espanoles/artillera-espaola-en-mayo-de-1808 (Real Cuerpo de Artillería)

Uniformity and information about these regiments (1800-18??):
http://www.eborense.es/soldados1808_pg_indice.html (recommended)
http://balagan.info/peninsular-war-painting-guide-spanish-infantry (in English, recommended)
http://www.littlewars.se/spanish/ranks.html (in English)
http://www.alkaidediciones.com/foro/index.php?topic=1447.0 (Real Cuerpo de Artillería)
http://losejercitosdelrey.es/category/fernando-vii/page/2/ (tanto Carlos IV como Fernando VII)
http://losejercitosdelrey.es/1815-la-infanteria-2-2/ (uniformes tras la reforma de 1815)
http://miniaturasmilitaresalfonscanovas.blogspot.com.es/ (requiere buscar lo que se requiera)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?334379-SPANISH-NAPOLEONIC-UNIFORMS

Armament of the Spanish Army:
https://www.museoliber.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Mosquetes-espa%C3%B1oles-en-la-batalla-de-Almansa.pdf (todas las épocas, incluída la napoleónica)
http://www.ordendebatalla.org/blog/2015/01/30/la-industria-militar-espanola-en-la-guerra-de-independencia/


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« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 06:21:00 pm by Don_Francisco »

Offline NiPhix

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 03:48:54 pm »
If Spain is in the game then Portugal just has to be added as Portugal and the UK together saved Spain for the most part in the Peninsular war due to Spain being for the most part in a guerilla warfare. And they also had many revolts and problems on their own. France got a hard smack in it's face from the UK and Portugal together. Ofcourse Spain also did a bit of a resistance but it wasn't as spectacular as the other two factions did.

But yes I would love to see Spain, they have lovely uniforms and their history is interesting. Same thing with the Portuguese.

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 03:51:49 pm »
If Spain is in the game then Portugal just has to be added as Portugal and the UK together saved Spain for the most part in the Peninsular war due to Spain being for the most part in a guerilla warfare. And they also had many revolts and problems on their own. France got a hard smack in it's face from the UK and Portugal together. Ofcourse Spain also did a bit of a resistance but it wasn't as spectacular as the other two factions did.

But yes I would love to see Spain, they have lovely uniforms and their history is interesting. Same thing with the Portuguese.
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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 03:58:37 pm »
If Spain is in the game then Portugal just has to be added as Portugal and the UK together saved Spain for the most part in the Peninsular war due to Spain being for the most part in a guerilla warfare. And they also had many revolts and problems on their own. France got a hard smack in it's face from the UK and Portugal together. Ofcourse Spain also did a bit of a resistance but it wasn't as spectacular as the other two factions did.

But yes I would love to see Spain, they have lovely uniforms and their history is interesting. Same thing with the Portuguese.
The entire Spain as Great Power declared the war on the French Empire. The regular army was formed about 550,000 men and we were the first who defeated Napoleon in open field. The Spanish army were fighting his own war alone apart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Army_(Peninsular_War)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bail%C3%A9n

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ADa:Batallas_de_la_Guerra_de_la_Independencia_Espa%C3%B1ola

The revolts were against the french occupation after Treaty of Fontainebleau.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Fontainebleau_(1807)

Our colonial revolts started while we were fighting the french after 1811.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 01:18:02 am by Don_Francisco »

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 04:06:46 pm »
If Spain is in the game then Portugal just has to be added as Portugal and the UK together saved Spain for the most part in the Peninsular war due to Spain being for the most part in a guerilla warfare. And they also had many revolts and problems on their own. France got a hard smack in it's face from the UK and Portugal together. Ofcourse Spain also did a bit of a resistance but it wasn't as spectacular as the other two factions did.

But yes I would love to see Spain, they have lovely uniforms and their history is interesting. Same thing with the Portuguese.
You used to be spanish long time ago when Netherlands belonged to the Spanish Crown :c

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 04:43:53 pm »
*Cough* I hope I had some influence on making this thread since that is the exact working of my poll for New Faction - Sweden. ;)

Yeah, Spain did play a large role. One of the biggest. All I'm interested to see is whether they will show the Spanish during the Alliance with France, or the time when they fought against France and UK and Portugal helped them. There is a lot of variation. A lot of information about units and certainly I'm sure a lot of people want to see it, me including.


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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 05:05:41 pm »
I like the idea of releasing factions in pairs tho. If we release 1 French or Coalition nation and their opposite at the same time, it's easier to create a lore and immersion, and the ration French vs Coalition stays 1:1.

PS: Woke up 10 minutes ago, I am aware that my post is incomprehensible

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 07:24:35 pm »
*Cough* I hope I had some influence on making this thread since that is the exact working of my poll for New Faction - Sweden. ;)

Yeah, Spain did play a large role. One of the biggest. All I'm interested to see is whether they will show the Spanish during the Alliance with France, or the time when they fought against France and UK and Portugal helped them. There is a lot of variation. A lot of information about units and certainly I'm sure a lot of people want to see it, me including.
Yeah it's your poll sorry for taking it without permission, hope you do not mind. xd

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 11:04:44 pm »
If you guys really want all these factions added, make sure to convince everyone you know to buy the game. The better it does, the more factions Anvil can afford to add.
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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 12:59:32 am »
If you guys really want all these factions added, make sure to convince everyone you know to buy the game. The better it does, the more factions Anvil can afford to add.
Of course, I'm pretty sure that all the Spanish NW community will move to Holdfast: NaW in the future. Or at least the majority.

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 01:07:12 am »
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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 01:59:20 am »
*Cough* I hope I had some influence on making this thread since that is the exact working of my poll for New Faction - Sweden. ;)

Yeah, Spain did play a large role. One of the biggest. All I'm interested to see is whether they will show the Spanish during the Alliance with France, or the time when they fought against France and UK and Portugal helped them. There is a lot of variation. A lot of information about units and certainly I'm sure a lot of people want to see it, me including.
Yeah it's your poll sorry for taking it without permission, hope you do not mind. xd
I don't really mind it. It's a good suggestion and I support it anyways.


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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 02:40:47 am »
*Cough* I hope I had some influence on making this thread since that is the exact working of my poll for New Faction - Sweden. ;)

Yeah, Spain did play a large role. One of the biggest. All I'm interested to see is whether they will show the Spanish during the Alliance with France, or the time when they fought against France and UK and Portugal helped them. There is a lot of variation. A lot of information about units and certainly I'm sure a lot of people want to see it, me including.
Yeah it's your poll sorry for taking it without permission, hope you do not mind. xd
I don't really mind it. It's a good suggestion and I support it anyways.
Nice!! ^^

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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 12:39:43 pm »
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Re: New faction - Kingdom of Spain
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 03:35:05 pm »
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