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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 07:57:25 pm »
People will probably find a way to make skins like they do in NW

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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2017, 10:19:52 pm »
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Windb%C3%BCchse_Jaegers_(ETW_unit)

http://healthymax.org/a-weapon-feared-emperor-of-france-napoleon/

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=nZB3DQAAQBAJ&pg=PT83&lpg=PT83&dq=napoleon+Windb%C3%BCchse&source=bl&ots=MSDDzdgqqi&sig=aqZe_1_k7yNk-r27Sh9vgbP8PYw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis7d7HtpjXAhUCHJQKHVvIAIgQ6AEIazAM#v=onepage&q=napoleon%20Windb%C3%BCchse&f=false

Some of the air rifle myth comes from an article from 1955 by Fred H. Baer for Guns Magazine entitled "The Gun That Scared Napoleon" where he talks about Lefebre facing the gun during the 1809 Tyrolean uprising and receiving instructions from Napoleon to put all its users to death, and then facing it again at Wagram - but then in 1973 for Arms and Armor he wrote the auto-rebuttal "Napoleon Was Not Afraid of It" and completely shifts gears, blaming a 1937 Maleyka article for starting the myth on faulty information. It states the last use of the gun was in the Rhineland during the War of the First Coalition and that the last policy made on the gun was on March 5 1801, when Colonel von Fennenberg reported 399 of his 550 air rifles were lost in battle and requested they be replaced with 1795 J├Ągerstutzen (flintlock rifles). In his article he credits Dr. Walther Hummelberger of the Historical Museum in Vienna for authoritatively asserting that Napoleon never personally saw the gun in use and made no declarations on it... probably by exhaustively searching and finding nothing.

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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2017, 10:41:32 pm »
It was the Austrians, and Napoleon never encountered air rifles.

I might have a look at some of the sources at the bottom of the below wiki page. Not for Napoleon personally seeing them. Not interested in that.
But for whether they were used in the napoleonic wars. Actually 1801 is good enough. But then the uniforms looked a lot different for Napoleons Armies then as well. I was going to suggest at one point that this game has maps with the older uniformed napoleonic french armies. All those, bicorn wearing French fusiliers iirc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

This one seems to support your claim but has no contemporary sources in english
http://www.beemans.net/Austrian%20airguns.htm
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 11:04:52 pm by Destraex »
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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2017, 11:53:30 pm »
I think Bluehawk just covered it quite thoroughly.
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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2017, 11:29:26 am »
You don't want to see them in a level that portrays early war characters with early war uniforms and weapons? We already have some maid that really should be using early war uniforms.... The desert one is Egypt?
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Re: Prussian units
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2017, 01:08:54 pm »
The devs said they already had the regiments chosen slightly before the win of Prussia on the vote, sadly ofcourse, no info about that.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2017, 01:31:01 pm by Sir Kydric »