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Title: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 19, 2017, 01:04:25 pm
Russo-Persian War [1804–13]  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1804%E2%80%9313)) 

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Im want see something unusual of Napoleonic period and maybe it can bring new players
Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: Almqvist on September 19, 2017, 04:50:04 pm
Pardon my french, no one cares about those streetshitters
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Post by: Mendoza on September 19, 2017, 04:58:06 pm
you sir think about india, dont you? (looks to irregular alcoholic, and know he will open a threat speacialy for india as faction)
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 19, 2017, 05:03:34 pm
you sir think about india, dont you? (looks to irregular alcoholic, and know he will open a threat speacialy for india as faction)

may be some other irregular alcoholic do it but not I

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Post by: Mendoza on September 19, 2017, 05:06:12 pm
o please common. you open a lot of similar threats on this forum. *trollface*  ;D
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 19, 2017, 05:10:22 pm
o please common. you open a lot of similar threats on this forum. *trollface*  ;D

and?

Im seriously think be great if it be in Holdfast -  may be something wrong with me...may be with you
   
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Post by: Almqvist on September 19, 2017, 05:25:48 pm
Add iceland!
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 19, 2017, 05:30:43 pm
Add iceland!

Im agreed that uniform is super ugly but seriously is Iran = Iceland?  is Iran = Switzerland?  [modern or ancient no matter]
Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 20, 2017, 01:42:02 pm
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While the uniforms of our European opponents are well known, historians have given much less attention to their oriental contemporaries. Seeking to fill this gap, we discuss the Persian regular army which twice clashed with Russia on the field of battle (1804-1813, 1826-1828). The rare archival documents and few published materials we have gathered allow us to present a sufficiently complete picture of the outward appearance of this "exotic" force.

In May of 1807 France and Persia signed the Treaty of Finkenstein, by which Napoleon promised to supply the Persian ruler Fath-Ali-Shah with arms, field artillery, and officers to organize a regular army. It was planned to send to Persia a French contingent of 4000 infantry with 10,000 muskets and 50 cannons. A preliminary mission was sent to the shah, consisting of General Claude-Matthieu Gardane with the first fifteen officer specialists. Napoleon’s instructions (10 May, 1807) to Gardane were to support anti-English and anti-Russian feelings, create a diversion in Georgia, and organize a regular Persian force. On 24 December the mission arrived in Teheran and here set to work. The formation of infantry and artillery units was undertaken in Persian Azerbaidjan - the hereditary possession of the heir to the throne, Abbas-Mirza. The young prince, in opposition to the shah, was distinguished by his bellicosity, and in spite of his defeats by the Russians, among the Persians he passed for a talented military leader. He valued the advantages of a regular army and helped its formation in every way. Regular Persian soldiers were called "sarbaz" (literally, "those who play with their heads", i.e., "risk takers"). Gaspar Drouville in his Travels to Persia in 1812 and 1813 writes that since Abbas-Mirza "did not have the means to give them uniforms, he nonetheless ordered that they have garments sewn up for them of the same color with buttons on the chest, thereby giving them a more warlike appearance." Later, he "ordered that bayonets be put on as many muskets as possible," and finally, "instead of cartridge pouches for their ammunition, each soldier was given a leather bag, fastened in front below the waist, which was as dangerous as it was clumsy."

http://greatestbattles.iblogger.org/Persia/19thC/The_Persian_Regular_Army.htm?i=1

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Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: Lorucas on September 20, 2017, 01:43:39 pm
I would like to see other facctions before the Persians sory  :P
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 20, 2017, 02:07:22 pm
I would like to see other facctions before the Persians sory  :P

and after others?
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Post by: Lorucas on September 20, 2017, 02:23:44 pm
Spain, Italy, Portugal u know  :P
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 20, 2017, 02:27:26 pm
Spain, Italy, Portugal u know  :P

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Post by: Lorucas on September 20, 2017, 02:29:09 pm
Spain, Italy, Portugal u know  :P

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After release major and minor factions
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Ooopps i didnt see that, my bad  ::). Well then i think i would like to see a lot of factions i cant choose one
Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: colonel_kawoosi on September 21, 2017, 12:13:28 pm
Greetings People

my name is Ali Kawoosi


as you may know Qajarid Persia was allied with France during Napoleoonic wars.
Iran gave them military access for invasion on British India and Emperor Napoleon sent three of his men to Iran for 2 duties:
1: train iranian army to increase it power against Russians
2: Build 3 Cannon Factories in 3 Iranian Cities

that time , iran and russia had 2 important wars , the first one Russians declared war and Second one Iranians Declared War


if i am not mistaken Russians were in war with Ottomans too , so these battles can be amazing.

we also can help dear developers in Historical information about Persia in this period of Time.

(http://[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/mkpwi.jpg)[/img]




Regards
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Post by: zaminisd on September 21, 2017, 01:14:02 pm

France always wanted to separate India from England.
And for this, he always wanted to work with Persian
So their existence is good
Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: zaminis on September 21, 2017, 01:17:16 pm
Greetings People

my name is Ali Kawoosi


as you may know Qajarid Persia was allied with France during Napoleoonic wars.
Iran gave them military access for invasion on British India and Emperor Napoleon sent three of his men to Iran for 2 duties:
1: train iranian army to increase it power against Russians
2: Build 3 Cannon Factories in 3 Iranian Cities

that time , iran and russia had 2 important wars , the first one Russians declared war and Second one Iranians Declared War


if i am not mistaken Russians were in war with Ottomans too , so these battles can be amazing.

we also can help dear developers in Historical information about Persia in this period of Time.

(http://[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/mkpwi.jpg)[/img]




Regards
it's true
good job
Title: Re: [Poll] Persia in game?
Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 23, 2017, 10:27:03 am
https://www.ottoman-uniforms.com/1807-till-1885-persian-iran-qajar-dynasty-army/
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Post by: colonel_kawoosi on September 23, 2017, 10:38:29 am
Pardon my french, no one cares about those streetshitters





Streetshitter is someone who cant respect other nations / cultures
streetshitter is someone who knows himself as the best and civilized and others as uncivilized
streetshitter is someone who lived on the trees /wild life in the past when middle easterns had their golden age and had sewage system in many of their buildings
streetshitter is someone who is uneducated and even didnt read one line of a historical book but allow himself to giving ideas about other people


say no to Racism and hate , say yes to Humanity and Respect for all the world


Regards
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on October 06, 2017, 07:46:45 pm
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on January 10, 2018, 08:45:04 pm
just found this gems https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/westfaliaminiatures/napoleonic-persians-in-28mm

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(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/139/209/af0d46b74cbc1597392fefbe094494bc_original.jpg?w=639&fit=max&v=1421223870&auto=format&q=92&s=344e9eb254540dddd99f1b5d42dec3b4)

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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on May 23, 2018, 01:26:50 pm
A portrait of Napoleon on horseback, signed by Mirza Reza Ibn Muhammad 'Ali Ashtiyani Tabrizi, Persia, Tabriz, Qajar, dated 127(0) AH/1853 AD
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Post by: Starblazer on May 23, 2018, 09:35:14 pm
Very cool art and units. I dig it, but the game does need more major factions beforehand.
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on May 23, 2018, 11:15:55 pm
Very cool art and units. I dig it, but the game does need more major factions beforehand.
agree...and Im think napoleonic theme is soo big / great / interesting - soo many games parts dlss even for aaa team...
hope some day im see "holdfast V: Russo-Persian war DLS"
 :-[
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Post by: Austro on May 24, 2018, 06:06:12 pm
Persia? lolno, maybe someone can mod that in later

From the devs I'd like to see Prussia, Austria And Russia because those make actual sense.
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on May 24, 2018, 06:29:34 pm
Persia? lolno, maybe someone can mod that in later

From the devs I'd like to see Prussia, Austria And Russia because those make actual sense.
Spain you forgot
and you forgot read what Im write "After release major and minor factions"
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Post by: Austro on May 24, 2018, 06:41:07 pm
Well here are the choices I suppose

(https://i.imgur.com/AMeHG3I.png)
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Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on May 24, 2018, 06:50:05 pm
Well here are the choices I suppose

(https://i.imgur.com/AMeHG3I.png)
ok! Montenegro detected - all perfect!
but Hungary? part of Austrian empyre or Ausro-Hungary at that period isnt it?