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Title: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Viriathus on January 19, 2018, 02:49:45 pm
Hello everyone,

Rejenorst and I are trying to find Prussian tunes for the new Prussian faction. We are having a difficult time finding usable tunes, so if you know any tunes that were used by the Prussians it would be great! We are looking for tunes that were used in between 1792 to 1812 in the Prussian Army.

Untill now we have 4 tunes done:
- Yorkshermarsch
- Hohenfriedberger Marsch
- Lockmarsh
- Pariser Einzugsmarsch

Working on:
- Grenadiermarsch
- Der Dessauer
- Der Coburger
- Marsch von König Friedrich II
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on January 19, 2018, 03:51:20 pm
1813  :(  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=lvAfArcW4yM
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Thorinas on January 19, 2018, 04:53:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL0K4QBUmX8

This should fit.
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Bluehawk on January 19, 2018, 05:37:01 pm
In 1817, the King compiled a collection of marches called the Armeemarschsammlung, divided into three categories for infantry slow and fast marches (I and II) and cavalry (III). You have to be careful because their entry numbers aren't in chronological order and there are Russian, Austrian, Saxon etc. marches mixed in, but this would be the best place to start looking. Anything below 100 should be pre-1817.

AMS I - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7Y8WBax-ogV8wdu-XRxKHFA6byngH5mE
AMS II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7Y8WBax-ogVV4frRqSKM47A_eyEFhlIK
AMS II - doesn't seem to have a convenient playlist, but there are a few scattered across youtube.

Personally I recommend "Der Dessauer" (AMS I, 1b) and "Der Coburger" (AMS I, 27).

There is a reprint of the sheet music available, (https://en.kliment.at/ergebnis.php?kat=7&wer=K%F6niglich%20Preu%20Armeemarschsammlung%201817-1839&ver=kliment) if you want to fork out the money, but they're probably all written for regimental orchestras and not fife and drum, so you would still need to re-arrange them. Playing by ear would be cheaper.
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Czechu on January 19, 2018, 10:36:38 pm
https://youtu.be/NVbH1BVXywY?t=1m41s

Sorry, but i had to :D
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: LueyHewis on January 21, 2018, 04:20:34 pm
Quote
- Der Dessauer

One can only hope that there will be trompets coming into the game with the Prussians  8)
And one does not simply forgets about the "Preußens Gloria", when adding Prussia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TEGPelS3Ac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TEGPelS3Ac)


Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Viriathus on January 21, 2018, 07:33:00 pm
Thank you for all your suggestions! Please keep them rolling in! :D

And one does not simply forgets about the "Preußens Gloria", when adding Prussia!

Preußens Gloria was written in 1871, that's over half a century after the Napoleonic Wars.
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Rejenorst on January 22, 2018, 06:57:33 am
Which is a shame since its a favorite but yeah its well over the use by date for Napoleonic era D:
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Thorinas on January 22, 2018, 10:12:49 am
Praesentiermarsch Friedrich Wilhelm III should fit too
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Viriathus on January 25, 2018, 01:18:23 pm
*musical bump*
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Mendoza on January 25, 2018, 02:32:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5ab0Bgb1zU&index=7&list=PLoKamgcoa4Nmx_e4fyD5Z3Ov-p0OVsK_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HobM4MupEZM&index=11&list=PLoKamgcoa4Nmx_e4fyD5Z3Ov-p0OVsK_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD7tFNKYgSM&index=24&list=PLoKamgcoa4Nmx_e4fyD5Z3Ov-p0OVsK_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1vW5IePqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7TZzVKqaZI


Oh please take this two in, i know its not the correct time... but prussian lovers neeeeeed it  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmiheUNSzqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTabW9xk_kE

Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Viriathus on February 06, 2018, 04:28:05 pm
Bumpdy bump :)
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Silver on February 15, 2018, 02:50:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwDIHKnVevo

Royal anthem of Prussia since 1795.
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Dionant on February 15, 2018, 05:08:30 pm
Präsentiermarsch is quite a good idea.

Heil dir im Siegerkranz should be added just like La Marseillaise was added, Prussian lovers need it.

EDIT: We can not forget of Pariser Einzugsmarsch.
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Brigadier_General on February 17, 2018, 04:45:59 am
Altpreussischer parademarsch and Fredricus Rex grenadier march are must haves!
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Rejenorst on May 02, 2018, 09:06:46 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL0K4QBUmX8

This should fit.

Does anyone have the music sheet for this or a midi file I can look at?
Hat jemand das Notenblatt für dieses Musik-stück oder eine Midi-Datei, die ich mir ansehen kann?
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Thorinas on May 06, 2018, 02:05:56 am
Leider habe ich kein Notenblatt, ich höre mich aber auf jeden Fall mal für euch um, der offizielle Titel des Marsches lautet "Marsch des Grenadier Garde Bataillons Nr 6" falls jemand anders was hat ;)

sadly i do not have a sheet, but ill look for it, the official Titel of the March is "Marsch des Grenadier Garde Bataillons Nr 6"
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Rejenorst on May 07, 2018, 11:41:42 am
Vielen Dank :) Ich hab noch weitere information ueber diesem Musikstück auf Youtube gefunden (quelle Im spoiler):
Thank you :) I found some further information about this Musical piece on youtube (source in the spoiler):

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Lord Horatio Nelson on May 07, 2018, 02:44:44 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87TphRelQs

march of the Artillery in Freyburg (1788)

nvm is
Saxon
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Lord Horatio Nelson on May 07, 2018, 02:48:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1xZyOzHFY

march of the volunteer skirmisher (German: Marsch der Freiwilligen Jäger 1813)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQoINAZj8I

Der Mollwitzer (1741)
Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Silver on May 08, 2018, 06:30:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-ZtKjo0VU

The "March from the time of Frederick the Great" was probably composed a few years after Frederick's death.

Title: Re: Prussian Military Tunes
Post by: Gerlach on August 17, 2018, 11:24:10 pm
Some more music for Prussia ? It would be nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ruf3BSb80E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdwTWn_T6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG8txn80Ga8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiwigh27zSo



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_Milit%C3%A4rm%C3%A4rsche . Here you can see where i got this from.