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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 11:05:01 pm »
The Osprey books get the grey trousers from Knötel, who likely made them grey by mistake. The opinions of modern books and reenactors are totally worthless unless they can cite primary sources, which they don't.
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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 11:07:12 pm »
Richard Knötel himself was born 40 years after the war, so maybe he either got confused between the 1st and 2nd Batt. or the 2nd did actually also wear some light grey trousers...

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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2017, 11:07:27 pm »
The Osprey books get the grey trousers from Knötel, who likely made them grey by mistake. The opinions of modern books and reenactors are totally worthless unless they can cite primary sources, which they don't.

Can you quote primary sources, I'd love to read them?


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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 11:10:49 pm »
The website I linked details all of its sources.

Richard Knötel himself was born 40 years after the war, so maybe he either got confused between the 1st and 2nd Batt. or the 2nd did actually also wear some light grey trousers...

It's possible that Knötel had some reference that longer exists, but it would be insane to assume that. We have to go with the evidence that does exist.
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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2017, 11:25:22 pm »
So the author compares 4 artists work which all vary to some extent, basing his colours on 100+ year old colours, colours gained from natural inks and paints known to degrade both in saturation and hue over time.



I think for me its clear (if this is primary sources) the 1st Light KGL wore a light coloured trouser!

EDIT: If the jackets are to go by Dark purple to Black. I actually think I prefer the Black to the accepted Dark green!
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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2017, 11:41:30 pm »
Evidence does suggest the 1st wore light coloured leggings, but I've been talking about the 2nd.
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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 01:20:45 am »
What difference will it have to the current rifle?

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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 10:03:55 am »
Evidence does suggest the 1st wore light coloured leggings, but I've been talking about the 2nd.

Ok but 'with all due respect' Im interested in the 1st, clues in the signature! ;)

I wasn't however aware that each battalion wore different uniforms, thats news to me.


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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 11:06:40 am »
There were some minor details, for example the plume of the shako was different and sometimes the shako itself would be different

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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 09:19:40 pm »
What happened to the original uniforms? Was no one able to preserve them, thus we don't know the color of the pants?
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Re: KGL Light Rifle Model Leaked ;)
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 09:24:28 pm »
Very few original items have survived two centuries and countless wars.

I wasn't however aware that each battalion wore different uniforms, thats news to me.

The uniforms were significantly different. The 2nd dressed mainly like the rifles, but the 1st dressed more or less like red-coated troops (albeit in green).
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