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Re: Huge Update. Prussia Released! For The King - 35% Off
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2018, 04:30:32 am »
Prussia was never in the Holy Roman Empire, although Brandenburg was  ;)

The HRE was dissolved in 1806 anyway.

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2018, 02:29:06 pm »
What exactly happened there as at one point to get around it and to have some sway as an elector he dubbed himself King in Prussia rather than of Prussia. Did Prussia step out of the HRE and/or abandon its participation as an elector prior to 1806?

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2018, 12:21:52 am »
The word 'kaiser' is derived from the name of Julius Caesar, who was never emperor. He was, however, Rome's dictator, which is basically a king, therefore 'kaiser' is acceptable. QED.
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Re: Huge Update. Prussia Released! For The King - 35% Off
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2018, 12:25:29 am »
Potato potato

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2018, 11:56:04 am »
Potato potato

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Re: Huge Update. Prussia Released! For The King - 35% Off
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2018, 12:30:52 pm »
The word 'kaiser' is derived from the name of Julius Caesar, who was never emperor. He was, however, Rome's dictator, which is basically a king, therefore 'kaiser' is acceptable. QED.

Very interesting reasoning.

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Re: Huge Update. Prussia Released! For The King - 35% Off
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2018, 01:18:44 pm »
Mind like a steel trap.

What exactly happened there as at one point to get around it and to have some sway as an elector he dubbed himself King in Prussia rather than of Prussia. Did Prussia step out of the HRE and/or abandon its participation as an elector prior to 1806?

They never gave up their status as elector, though it didn't mean much more than a rubber stamp on the Habsburg succession. The pretense of calling themselves "King in Prussia" instead of "of Prussia" wasn't just to placate the Austrians, but also the Polish (and the Dukes of Saxony who were frequently Kings of Poland). Western Prussia was known traditionally as "Royal Prussia" as it was ruled by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and Eastern Prussia was "Ducal Prussia" under the secular rump-state left over from the dissolution of the Teutonic Order of Knights. When the Duchy was elevated into a Kingdom, you effectively had two kings in Prussia. In 1772, after the First Partition of Poland, the western Prussian territories were absorbed by the Hohenzollern state, so the King in Prussia now ruled all of "Prussia", royal and ducal, together and alone. The pretense was now redundant.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2018, 02:04:53 pm »
Nicely explained.  :D

The pretense was now redundant.

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2018, 10:01:33 am »
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