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Holdfast: Nations At War => Game Discussion => Suggestions & Feedback => Topic started by: Gurkha on January 22, 2017, 09:18:29 pm

Title: Will this game have females?
Post by: Gurkha on January 22, 2017, 09:18:29 pm
 ??? ?
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: NickLasagne on January 22, 2017, 09:22:18 pm
gherkins you pervert. Do you have to please yourself while looking at the visual representation of a human of the female gender in a game? Pff pathetic
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Gurkha on January 22, 2017, 09:25:37 pm
I wanna know if Betty will have to be forced into a male sex change.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: NickLasagne on January 22, 2017, 09:27:00 pm
I wanna know if Betty will have to be forced into a male sex change.

To be fair that actually makes it an interesting question.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Wigster600 on January 22, 2017, 09:31:45 pm
Hopefully not, lest this game falls into the same sess pit as NW.

If there's camp-followers though, sure, why not. But for regular combat units, let's not.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: DΛRKWΛVΣ on January 22, 2017, 09:35:06 pm
Females destroy the immersion in war games imo. Pls no.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Wigster600 on January 22, 2017, 09:35:50 pm
Females destroy the immersion in war games imo. Pls no.
Depends on the period and conflict, but for the Napoleonic wars. Pls no.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: DaZZer on January 22, 2017, 09:40:14 pm
racist
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Marshal LongTree on January 22, 2017, 10:30:35 pm
pls no
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Intel Guardian on January 22, 2017, 10:49:47 pm
#WomansMarch for Holdfast.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Bluehawk on January 22, 2017, 11:27:46 pm
But I want to play as Nadezhda Durova and pretend to be a woman pretending to be a man.  :-[
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nurdbot on January 23, 2017, 12:30:53 am
But I want to play as Nadezhda Durova and pretend to be a woman pretending to be a man.  :-[

If it happens obviously they'd go that route and make it so women appear to be suspiciously slender oddly hairless young men.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Jakester on January 23, 2017, 05:50:08 am
#ImGay for Holdfast.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: SirJames on January 23, 2017, 05:57:48 am
I'm neutral on the subject
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Spork on September 27, 2017, 04:58:31 am
The SJWC fully supports the usage of a gender slider bar rather than only one or two gender options.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Harry26548 on September 27, 2017, 09:05:56 am
Lets not fall into the trap. Lets not go down the route of political correctness.. Lets keep it real. Camp Followers only.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nurdbot on September 27, 2017, 03:16:26 pm
I don't mind, but like real life they have to very careful and pretend to be men. So nothing too obvious about their gender.

Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: DΛRKWΛVΣ on September 27, 2017, 05:51:00 pm
If they really have to be included, I don't know why, but if they really have to (sigh...) then please make no voices for them. Because they were FUCKING ANNOYING in warband NW.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Intel Guardian on September 27, 2017, 06:00:23 pm
Yeah, those bloody women should shut up, just like in real life! Us men can shout whenever we damn well please!
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nurdbot on September 27, 2017, 07:18:25 pm
If they really have to be included, I don't know why, but if they really have to (sigh...) then please make no voices for them. Because they were FUCKING ANNOYING in warband NW.

I'm sorry but I can't take people in this community complaining about annoying voices being a thing at all seriously.

Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: DΛRKWΛVΣ on September 27, 2017, 07:19:58 pm
You know that one female hack that let's these women scream all the time? When you just downloaded a new sound mod and want to enjoy the actual battle sounds? Yes every individual sound really matters a lot.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nurdbot on September 27, 2017, 07:24:34 pm
You know that one female hack that let's these women scream all the time? When you just downloaded a new sound mod and want to enjoy the actual battle sounds? Yes every individual sound really matters a lot.

Considering people are spaming the default male voice commands endlessly at the moment, I doubt we'll hear it even with a hack. Which doesn't exist at the moment too?

We shouldn't have the option to have even cleverly disguised women because sounds annoy me isn't really at all a valid complaint. Especially with this game full of other annoying sounds, VOIP and TeamSpeak.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: DΛRKWΛVΣ on September 27, 2017, 07:30:21 pm
You can turn VOIP off tbh.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nurdbot on September 27, 2017, 07:37:25 pm
Still not a good excuse denying content for people interested and money for the development of the game for some vague reason or other.

As long as it is done tastefully and presented accurately as possible it is a good idea. I doubt the developers will drop JRPG female character with highlights out of the blue, don't let bad past examples sour the future of a different game entirely.

If that is the case you might as well use this whole sub forum for something else.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Harry26548 on September 28, 2017, 01:44:38 am
I actually find that most females who want to play the game, like my girlfriend, would prefer to keep the historical accuracy rather than be pandered to.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Irregular Alcoholic on September 28, 2017, 12:52:46 pm
maybe like support http://www.holdfastgame.com/forum/index.php?topic=1528.msg42312#msg42312
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Destraex on October 13, 2017, 12:10:38 pm
I actually find that most females who want to play the game, like my girlfriend, would prefer to keep the historical accuracy rather than be pandered to.
This.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Nr.9 Boon on October 13, 2017, 01:43:32 pm
The SJWC fully supports the usage of a gender slider bar rather than only one or two gender options.

lol
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Destraex on October 14, 2017, 07:28:41 am
I am pretty sure there was a Napoleonic unit that was entirely composed of Giraffes trained to fight from Napoleons time in North Africa. Can we have this unit as well?
I have no evidence, in fact their is pretty good evidence to the contrary. But it would help me immerse because I want to play a stronk giraffe character. To re-enforce my fantasy that I always get from anime and hollywood... as I slip further and further from reality maybe I will need therapy for my warped PC views? Views that have no basis in reality but I just want to be true. Nobody can tell me I am wrong because I am entitled!!! I am an individual that has rights maaaan.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Intel Guardian on October 14, 2017, 03:21:51 pm
We get it. Napoleonic armies were made up almost exclusively of men.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: VetroG on October 14, 2017, 03:34:13 pm
Please add this.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Harry26548 on October 14, 2017, 03:38:18 pm
We get it. Napoleonic armies were made up almost exclusively of men.

 Yes
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: dragon_12dk on October 16, 2017, 01:42:30 am
It's 1803 - 1815, not 2017. It wouldn't make any sense to have females in any war simulation game unless the game is modern or future.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Spork on October 17, 2017, 03:19:03 pm
War simulation game? Perhaps there should also be a random chance that your soldier will have caught some disease in camp before the battle and as you're marching out towards the enemy you just fall over and die before any shots are fired, or you can start with 75% health. The surgeon class wouldn't really be able to heal anyone unless it's just a small gash from a sword or a bullet graze, if you actually take damage the surgeon sends you back to the medical tent where you will rest for a week until you die. Perhaps they should add in effects of being scared or shell-shocked so that you literally can't control your soldier and just hide somewhere until you are shot for cowardice by your own officer.

No, this is just a modern video game, and people should be able to play as who they are if they want. It was fine in NW and it will be fine in Holdfast.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Almqvist on October 17, 2017, 03:34:27 pm
War simulation game? Perhaps there should also be a random chance that your soldier will have caught some disease in camp before the battle and as you're marching out towards the enemy you just fall over and die before any shots are fired, or you can start with 75% health. The surgeon class wouldn't really be able to heal anyone unless it's just a small gash from a sword or a bullet graze, if you actually take damage the surgeon sends you back to the medical tent where you will rest for a week until you die. Perhaps they should add in effects of being scared or shell-shocked so that you literally can't control your soldier and just hide somewhere until you are shot for cowardice by your own officer.

No, this is just a modern video game, and people should be able to play as who they are if they want. It was fine in NW and it will be fine in Holdfast.
This sounds like an amazing gamemode
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Intel Guardian on October 17, 2017, 03:54:41 pm
If you die the game gets uninstalled.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Duke_Countu on October 17, 2017, 06:43:08 pm
Perhaps you could add women in the form of civilian models for some role-playing experiences, but I'm not sure how I feel about going the Battlefield route.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Clark Harrington on October 17, 2017, 06:56:35 pm
Jeez, guys.
Whenever I geht a game, I always play a female Charakter in the beginning. I build a story around them, and I am usually pretty angry, especially with modern combat games. But here: we play napoleonic era warfare. Yes, there were women in that time disguised as men, but that is the whole point of it: making obvious female characters would turn the whole thing ad absurdum, since theyre first goal is to Heide theire gender.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: dragon_12dk on October 18, 2017, 02:11:25 am
Jeez, guys.
Whenever I geht a game, I always play a female Charakter in the beginning. I build a story around them, and I am usually pretty angry, especially with modern combat games. But here: we play napoleonic era warfare. Yes, there were women in that time disguised as men, but that is the whole point of it: making obvious female characters would turn the whole thing ad absurdum, since theyre first goal is to Heide theire gender.
The "women disguised as men" would have been like 0.0001% of any military population anyways. If added to the game, that static would change to a historically inaccurate 50% or at least 25%

War simulation game? Perhaps there should also be a random chance that your soldier will have caught some disease in camp before the battle and as you're marching out towards the enemy you just fall over and die before any shots are fired, or you can start with 75% health. The surgeon class wouldn't really be able to heal anyone unless it's just a small gash from a sword or a bullet graze, if you actually take damage the surgeon sends you back to the medical tent where you will rest for a week until you die. Perhaps they should add in effects of being scared or shell-shocked so that you literally can't control your soldier and just hide somewhere until you are shot for cowardice by your own officer.

No, this is just a modern video game, and people should be able to play as who they are if they want. It was fine in NW and it will be fine in Holdfast.

So you basically are saying screw all history because simple game mechanics will always exist. That is a completely flawed way of thinking, that would prevent anyone on planet earth from making a historically accurate game because someone will always be able to pipe up and find some minor detail that isn't 100% right. It is ridiculous to say "oh, this game is about 12% inaccurate to history, which means we should just go ahead and make it 90% inaccurate because screw history, we cant make a perfectly accurate game so we shouldn't try at all."
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Destraex on October 18, 2017, 11:36:28 pm
I want jet fighters in game. Because loophole in history. Plus this small dev team does not have enough on its plate already. Lets pay homage to Political Correctness in what is supposed to be a relaxing hobby. Napoleonic runways please as well for alien spacecraft.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Jackson on October 19, 2017, 12:23:32 am
If the developers were to add women (and I don't really think they will), it wouldn't be in the name of "political correctness", whatever the hell that means.
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Brigadier_General on October 19, 2017, 04:33:46 am
This isn't 2017
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: dragon_12dk on October 19, 2017, 05:20:39 am
If the developers were to add women (and I don't really think they will), it wouldn't be in the name of "political correctness", whatever the hell that means.

as defined by the Webster dictionary, political correctness is:
"the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
Title: Re: Will this game have zee females?
Post by: Intel Guardian on October 19, 2017, 08:58:05 am
But surely if they do, it would be for player choice and not for political correctness.