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Who is at fault for players going into the upper tower as sapper on Port Niles?

The player for doing what the game allows them to do with their selected character.
0 (0%)
The Map Designer for not using a player blocking barrier to stop players from getting to that spot.
5 (100%)
AGS for not having clearly defined rules listed in game for people to understand what not to do in game.
0 (0%)
Getty because he wrote the rules as sole head admin
0 (0%)

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Offline BlackTiger

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Port Niles Sapper Spot
« on: January 04, 2021, 06:21:13 pm »
There are towers at the back of each spawn on Port Niles that a sapper can get into the upper chamber of by using the bomb to put in on the ledge and thus be able to jump into the window.

Just today 1/4/2021 at about 11:15 AM CST, the admin put out a message to the whole server saying "get out of the tower".

Here's an idea, REDESIGN THE MAP SO THAT YOU CAN'T ENTER THAT WINDOW.

We all know this can be done as a matter of fact thanks to the Holdfast Map Maker SDK, use the invisible player barrier wall to block players from going there.

It is NOT an exploit to use the sapper to place the bomb on the ledge because that's how putting a bomb down works, it places down right below you making you stand on top of it, and you can move it and place it down anywhere and still jump on it so nothing about that is exploitative.

If you want people to not be able to go up there, MAKE IT SO THEY CAN'T, it is YOUR map design thus it is YOUR FAULT that people are able to do that.

It is WRONG to try and punish players for doing what you ALLOW THEM TO DO in the game.

Either change the map or stop penalizing players for doing what the game allows them to do, this is just nonsense because the problem stems from YOU AGS and YOUR MAP design.

Offline Dabinak

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Re: Port Niles Sapper Spot
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 06:46:13 pm »
If you want people to not be able to go up there, MAKE IT SO THEY CAN'T, it is YOUR map design thus it is YOUR FAULT that people are able to do that.

It is WRONG to try and punish players for doing what you ALLOW THEM TO DO in the game.

you're right i agree with you


Offline BlackTiger

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Re: Port Niles Sapper Spot
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2021, 08:08:44 pm »
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711680931139682307/795706496302317598/147.png

YSW said "It's legal admin" and the admin responds "it is however against the rules to delay the round. Please do not use the tower to delay the round."

How is it "delaying the round" to be making a last stand?

He isn't hiding and not fighting, he isn't just running away from people that can't catch up to him trying to kill him that he could turn and fight which can be considered delaying the round since you are supposed to fight the enemy not just run away although it is historically accurate to retreat and just run as the last man standing, if you tried to fight as the last man on the battlefield you would definitely be killed rather than being taken prisoner, so it's actually more historically accurate to run away as the last member of your team.

Either way, he is standing in a spot where the enemy can go too, they can have a sapper place a barrel on the ledge so they can all jump in the window, and the whole time YSW is up there he's shooting them with the swivel gun and such, so how is that delaying the round for him to continue to fight?

It's bogus and the admins can't even agree upon what does or does not constitute a player delaying the round.

Why are the admins so bad at their job, is it perhaps the rule set is vague and wide open for any interpretation at any given time with no consistency?

Offline Haybales

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Re: Port Niles Sapper Spot
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2021, 06:43:10 pm »
no

Offline Edmonster

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Re: Port Niles Sapper Spot
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2021, 06:47:12 pm »
no

At least it isn't in the discord...

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